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In Rilievo Bitrate e parametri vari dei canali Tivusat

Ma per un transponder di che costi si parla? Leggevo che un transponder di Astra 29.2 costa tra i 5 e i 6 milioni l'anno? Per Hotbird le cifre sono simili?

Credo sia totalmente fuori discussione, la Rai quando taglia non torna mai indietro! Rimpiango i tempi in cui Rai 4K vagava nello spazio da un trasponder all'altro e gli HD erano di livello qualitativo assoluto, tempi andati ormai!
 
Ma per un transponder di che costi si parla? Leggevo che un transponder di Astra 29.2 costa tra i 5 e i 6 milioni l'anno? Per Hotbird le cifre sono simili? Spegnere i canali SD non garantisce un risparmio economico sufficiente per, in teoria, poter aumentare la qualità di quelli in HD? Risparmiare spegnendo gli SD e voler risparmiare ulteriormente peggiorando la qualità degli HD non mi sembra corretto, specialmente adesso che stanno aumentando gli utenti tivùsat.

cercando con google avevo trovato un'indicazione per Hotbird in cui si parlava di 3.5 milioni (ma potrebbe essere una notizia datata, per cui facciamo finta che siano sei milioni).

la Rai, col suo bilancio MILIARDARIO, non dovrebbe avere problemi a trovare altre voci su cui tagliare per risparmiare qualche milioncino (tagliando i veri sprechi, non risparmiando sulla sua mission aziendale principale, cioè la trasmissione di contenuti video con un minimo di qualità).
 
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cercando con google avevo trovato un'indicazione per Hotbird in cui si parlava di 3.5 milioni (ma potrebbe essere una notizia datata, per cui facciamo finta che siano sei milioni).

la Rai, col suo bilancio MILIARDARIO, non dovrebbe avere problemi a trovare altre voci su cui tagliare per risparmiare qualche milioncino (tagliando i veri sprechi, non risparmiando sulla sua mission aziendale principale, cioè la trasmissione di contenuti video con un minimo di qualità).
Mettiamola così, per semplificare: tra Tivùsat e RaiPlay hanno deciso di privilegiare quest'ultima. Ora hai chiaro il concetto?
 
Esattamente! E senza tener presente che, almeno da varie esperienze in giro, ho potuto constatare che un tempo c'era gente che sapeva fare le cose molto meglio. Chi si ritrovava ad avere certi ruoli, di solito erano persone molto pignole, che esigevano la perfezione, pur nei limiti della tecnologia esistente, mentre ora mi pare ci sia molta superficialità ed incompetenza, oppure con la scusa di "tanto se ne occupa il computer", non viene data attenzione al dettaglio, e ci sono molti più errori e settaggi errati rispetto a tempo addietro.
Sottoscrivo.
C'è anche da dire che prima c'erano solo due/tre canali da gestire solo su rete analogica. Ora la situazione è ben diversa: i canali sono diverse decine, e molte sono le piattaforme.
Peraltro, ora servirebbero ben altre competenze ...

Una cosa è certa: se determinati errori fossero stati fatti a quei tempi ... molti "tecnici" e "responsabili" ora sarebbero a casa, cacciati in malo modo.
 
Mettiamola così, per semplificare: tra Tivùsat e RaiPlay hanno deciso di privilegiare quest'ultima. Ora hai chiaro il concetto?

per nulla, RaiPlay è fruibile solo da quella parte di popolazione italiana che ha un acesso decente a internet, il DTT raggiunge bene solo le zone urbane e quelle di pianura(nei comuni di montagna spesso la copertura è inadeguata)
l'unico servizio RAI con diffusione a copertura davvero universale è quello di Tivùsat, penalizzare Tivùsat rispetto agli altri servizi è quindi inaccettabile (dovrebbe essere quello su cui puntare maggiormente, anche perchè il rapporto costi/copertura è di gran lunga il migliore).

Poiché in famiglia paghiamo tre abbonamenti RAI, permettimi di essere parecchio scontento di come è stata gestita la cosa.
 
per nulla, RaiPlay è fruibile solo da quella parte di popolazione italiana che ha un acesso decente a internet, il DTT raggiunge bene solo le zone urbane e quelle di pianura(nei comuni di montagna spesso la copertura è inadeguata)
l'unico servizio RAI con diffusione a copertura davvero universale è quello di Tivùsat, penalizzare Tivùsat rispetto agli altri servizi è quindi inaccettabile (dovrebbe essere quello su cui puntare maggiormente, anche perchè il rapporto costi/copertura è di gran lunga il migliore).

Poiché in famiglia paghiamo tre abbonamenti RAI, permettimi di essere parecchio scontento di come è stata gestita la cosa.
Ti rispondo nel thread dedicato ai txp RAI.
 
HGTV Italy HD:
Video: 3,70 - 4,86 Mbps / 16:9 / MPEG-4 / 1920x1080i
Audio 1: 192 kbps (Stereo)
Audio 2: 192 kbps (Stereo)

Frequenza: DVB-S2 11393 V 27500 3/4.
 
Ora che sono stati eliminati i cartelli sulla 11919 dovrebbero essere occupati circa 21 mbps su un totale di 45 Mbps confermi ALE89?
 
Si esatto. Il cartello era unico e occupava solo 400 kbps. Quindi non è cambiato di fatto nulla. Sulla frequenza ci sono sempre 25,00 Mbps circa liberi.
 
Tabelle NIT (Home Frequency TivùSat 10992 V):

Aggiornato al 24/01/2021

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 11100 (0x2b5c)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 10.727 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 30000 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 211 = MPEG service 4602 (Nasa TV UHD)
Logical channel 220 = MPEG service 4604 (Museum 4K)
Logical channel 225 = MPEG service 4603 (TRAVELXP 4K)

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 12100 (0x2f44)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 10.930 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 30000 MSps
FEC: 2/3
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 37 = MPEG service 1731 (HSE24)

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 12400 (0x3070)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 10.992 GHz
Modulation: QPSK, DVB-S
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 2/3
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 1 = MPEG service 8511 (Rai 1)
Logical channel 2 = MPEG service 8512 (Rai 2)
Logical channel 3 = MPEG service 8513 (Rai 3)
Logical channel 10 = MPEG service 8514 (Rai 4)
Logical channel 13 = MPEG service 8515 (Rai 5)
Logical channel 14 = MPEG service 8502 (Rai Movie)
Logical channel 15 = MPEG service 8522 (Rai Premium)
Logical channel 21 = MPEG service 8523 (Rai Sport)
Logical channel 23 = MPEG service 8518 (Rai Storia)
Logical channel 24 = MPEG service 8516 (Rai News 24)
Logical channel 33 = MPEG service 8521 (Rai Scuola)
Logical channel 42 = MPEG service 8524 (Rai Gulp)
Logical channel 43 = MPEG service 8525 (Rai YoYo)
Logical channel 89 = MPEG service 8520 (Senato)
Logical channel 90 = MPEG service 8519 (Camera Deputati)
Logical channel 100 = MPEG service 8517 (tivùlink)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
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21 43 fc 71 21 36 fc 72 21 4a fc 73 21 4b fc 79 !C.q!6.r!J.s!K.y
21 46 fc 7b 21 44 fc 7c 21 49 fc 85 21 4c fc 8e !F.{!D.|!I..!L..
21 4d fc 8f !M..

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 12500 (0x30d4)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.013 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 29900 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 113 = MPEG service 17716 (Rai 5 HD)
Logical channel 115 = MPEG service 17717 (Rai Premium HD)
Logical channel 123 = MPEG service 17714 (Rai Storia HD)
Logical channel 124 = MPEG service 17711 (Rai News 24 HD)
Logical channel 133 = MPEG service 17715 (Rai Scuola HD)
Logical channel 142 = MPEG service 17712 (Rai Gulp HD)
Logical channel 143 = MPEG service 17713 (Rai YoYo HD)
Logical channel 301 = MPEG service 17744 (Rai 3 TGR Valle d'Aosta)
Logical channel 302 = MPEG service 17739 (Rai 3 TGR Piemonte)
Logical channel 303 = MPEG service 17735 (Rai 3 TGR Liguria)
Logical channel 304 = MPEG service 17740 (Rai 3 TGR Lombardia)
Logical channel 305 = MPEG service 17742 (Rai 3 TGR Veneto)
Logical channel 306 = MPEG service 17752 (Rai 3 TGR Trentino Alto Adige Bolzano)
Logical channel 307 = MPEG service 17751 (Rai 3 TGR Trentino Alto Adige Trento)
Logical channel 308 = MPEG service 17743 (Rai 3 TGR Tagesschau)
Logical channel 309 = MPEG service 17749 (Rai 3 TGR Friuli Venezia Giulia)
Logical channel 310 = MPEG service 17750 (Rai 3 TGR Furlanija Julijska Krajina)
Logical channel 311 = MPEG service 17741 (Rai 3 TGR Emilia-Romagna)
Logical channel 312 = MPEG service 17736 (Rai 3 TGR Toscana)
Logical channel 313 = MPEG service 17738 (Rai 3 TGR Marche)
Logical channel 314 = MPEG service 17737 (Rai 3 TGR Umbria)
Logical channel 315 = MPEG service 17753 (Rai 3 TGR Lazio)
Logical channel 316 = MPEG service 17746 (Rai 3 TGR Abruzzo)
Logical channel 317 = MPEG service 17747 (Rai 3 TGR Molise)
Logical channel 318 = MPEG service 17748 (Rai 3 TGR Campania)
Logical channel 319 = MPEG service 17731 (Rai 3 TGR Puglia)
Logical channel 320 = MPEG service 17732 (Rai 3 TGR Basilicata)
Logical channel 321 = MPEG service 17733 (Rai 3 TGR Calabria)
Logical channel 322 = MPEG service 17745 (Rai 3 TGR Sardegna)
Logical channel 323 = MPEG service 17734 (Rai 3 TGR Sicilia)
Logical channel 701 = MPEG service 17718 (UNINETTUNO UNIVERSITY TV)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
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45 33 fc 21 45 30 fc 2a 45 31 fc 2b E3.!E0.*E1.+

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 12600 (0x3138)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.034 GHz
Modulation: QPSK, DVB-S
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 87 = MPEG service 1706 (CGTN)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
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Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 13100 (0x332c)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.137 GHz
Modulation: QPSK, DVB-S
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 71 = MPEG service 7305 (Al Jazeera English)
Logical channel 82 = MPEG service 7302 (Bloomberg European TV)
Logical channel 171 = MPEG service 7306 (Al Jazeera English HD)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
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Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 13300 (0x33f4)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.179 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 80 = MPEG service 4910 (Juwelo)
Logical channel 422 = MPEG service 4994 (Telecupole)
Logical channel 637 = MPEG service 4957 (Radio Margherita)

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 13400 (0x3458)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.200 GHz
Modulation: QPSK, DVB-S
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 5/6
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 645 = MPEG service 4785 (RVS Italy)

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 700 (0x02bc)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.334 GHz
Modulation: QPSK, DVB-S
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 79 = MPEG service 9 (Sonlife)
Logical channel 200 = MPEG service 17 (Hot Bird 4k1)

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 900 (0x0384)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.373 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 73 = MPEG service 533 (NHK WORLD JAPAN)
Logical channel 454 = MPEG service 510 (Parole di Vita)
Logical channel 518 = MPEG service 502 (EMILIA ROMAGNA 24)

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 1000 (0x03e8)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.393 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 9 = MPEG service 4323 (Nove HD)
Logical channel 38 = MPEG service 4322 (GIALLO HD)
Logical channel 56 = MPEG service 4334 (HGTV Italy HD)
Logical channel 57 = MPEG service 4321 (Motor Trend HD)

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 1200 (0x04b0)
Original Network ID: 272 (0x0110) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.432 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 29900 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 34 = MPEG service 111 (Cine34)
Logical channel 67 = MPEG service 119 (RMC)
Logical channel 20 = MPEG service 120 (20 MEDIASET HD)
Logical channel 104 = MPEG service 123 (Rete 4 HD)
Logical channel 105 = MPEG service 122 (Canale 5 HD)
Logical channel 106 = MPEG service 121 (Italia 1 HD)
Logical channel 11 = MPEG service 124 (Iris)
Logical channel 12 = MPEG service 127 (La 5)
Logical channel 16 = MPEG service 130 (Mediaset ITALIA DUE)
Logical channel 17 = MPEG service 129 (Mediaset EXTRA)
Logical channel 25 = MPEG service 128 (TgCom24)
Logical channel 39 = MPEG service 132 (Topcrime)
Logical channel 40 = MPEG service 126 (Boing)
Logical channel 41 = MPEG service 133 (Cartoonito)
Logical channel 60 = MPEG service 134 (Focus)
Logical channel 805 = MPEG service 805 (Mediaset Play)
Logical channel 899 = MPEG service 899 (Infinity)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
00 7b fc 04 00 7a fc 05 00 79 fc 06 .{...z...y..

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 1700 (0x06a4)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.526 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 29700 MSps
FEC: 2/3
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 661 = MPEG service 14035 (Swiss Pop)
Logical channel 662 = MPEG service 14036 (Swiss Jazz)
Logical channel 663 = MPEG service 14047 (Swiss Classic)

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 1800 (0x0708)
Original Network ID: 200 (0x00c8) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.541 GHz
Modulation: QPSK, DVB-S
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 22000 MSps
FEC: 5/6
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 22 = MPEG service 3625 (VH1)
Logical channel 26 = MPEG service 3624 (Spike)
Logical channel 27 = MPEG service 3627 (Paramount Network)
Logical channel 47 = MPEG service 3621 (Super!)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
0e 2b fc 7f .+.

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 15300 (0x3bc4)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.565 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 29900 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 69 = MPEG service 808 (France 24 HD (in English))
Logical channel 72 = MPEG service 803 (TRT World HD)
Logical channel 75 = MPEG service 807 (France 24 HD (en Francais))
Logical channel 86 = MPEG service 801 (Euronews English HD)

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 15400 (0x3c28)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.585 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 5/6
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 88 = MPEG service 873 (CGTN Documentary HD)
Logical channel 187 = MPEG service 872 (CGTN HD)
Logical channel 192 = MPEG service 871 (CCTV-4 HD)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
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Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 15600 (0x3cf0)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.623 GHz
Modulation: QPSK, DVB-S
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 49 = MPEG service 10725 (MEZZO)

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 15700 (0x3d54)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.642 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 36 = MPEG service 1307 (RTL 102.5 HD)
Logical channel 65 = MPEG service 1321 (RADIO ZETA HD)
Logical channel 66 = MPEG service 1308 (RADIOFRECCIA HD)
Logical channel 83 = MPEG service 1310 (i24News HD English)
Logical channel 84 = MPEG service 1309 (i24News HD French)
Logical channel 127 = MPEG service 1324 (Paramount Network HD)
Logical channel 420 = MPEG service 1328 (People TV-Rete 7)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
05 2c fc 1b .,..

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 15800 (0x3db8)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.662 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 35 = MPEG service 16962 (Radio Italia TV HD)
Logical channel 50 = MPEG service 16977 (RDS Social TV)
Logical channel 51 = MPEG service 16963 (UNIRESAT HD)
Logical channel 63 = MPEG service 16966 (Radio Italia Trend TV HD)
Logical channel 61 = MPEG service 16980 (BFC)
Logical channel 64 = MPEG service 16976 (Radio Kiss Kiss TV)
Logical channel 132 = MPEG service 16979 (QVC HD)
Logical channel 445 = MPEG service 16952 (Padre Pio Tv)
Logical channel 631 = MPEG service 16981 (Radio Number One)
Logical channel 819 = MPEG service 16992 (VIDEOLINA)
Logical channel 832 = MPEG service 16988 (TVA Vicenza)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
42 53 fc 20 BS.

Network Name:
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 15900 (0x3e1c)
Original Network ID: 319 (0x013f) Version: 10
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.681 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 48 = MPEG service 307 (Arte HD)

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 5000 (0x1388)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.727 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 29900 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 85 = MPEG service 13101 (DW English HD)
Logical channel 91 = MPEG service 13104 (KBS HD)
Logical channel 656 = MPEG service 13130 (RFI Francais)
Logical channel 667 = MPEG service 13124 (DW02)
Logical channel 669 = MPEG service 13121 (DW08)
Logical channel 670 = MPEG service 13122 (DW09)

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 5200 (0x1450)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.766 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 29900 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 101 = MPEG service 3401 (Rai 1 HD)
Logical channel 102 = MPEG service 3402 (Rai 2 HD)
Logical channel 103 = MPEG service 3403 (Rai 3 HD)
Logical channel 110 = MPEG service 3405 (Rai 4 HD)
Logical channel 114 = MPEG service 3406 (Rai Movie HD)
Logical channel 121 = MPEG service 3404 (Rai Sport + HD)
Logical channel 210 = MPEG service 3407 (Rai 4K)
Logical channel 601 = MPEG service 3441 (Rai Radio 1)
Logical channel 602 = MPEG service 3442 (Rai Radio 2)
Logical channel 603 = MPEG service 3443 (Rai Radio 3)
Logical channel 699 = MPEG service 3446 (Rai Isoradio)
Logical channel 605 = MPEG service 3444 (Rai Radio3 Classica)
Logical channel 606 = MPEG service 3449 (Rai Radio Kids)
Logical channel 607 = MPEG service 3448 (Rai Radio Live)
Logical channel 630 = MPEG service 3451 (Rai Radio Tutta Italiana)
Logical channel 639 = MPEG service 3454 (Rai Radio Slovenia)
Logical channel 640 = MPEG service 3447 (Rai Radio Techete')
Logical channel 641 = MPEG service 3453 (Rai Radio 1 Sport)
Logical channel 642 = MPEG service 3450 (Rai Radio 2 Indie)
Logical channel 604 = MPEG service 3445 (Rai GrParlamento)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
0d 49 fc 01 0d 4a fc 02 0d 4b fc 03 0d 4d fc 0a .I...J...K...M..
0d 4e fc 0e 0d 4c fc 15 .N...L..

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 6000 (0x1770)
Original Network ID: 272 (0x0110) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 11.919 GHz
Modulation: QPSK, DVB-S
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 29900 MSps
FEC: 5/6
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 4 = MPEG service 3 (Rete 4)
Logical channel 5 = MPEG service 2 (Canale 5)
Logical channel 6 = MPEG service 1 (Italia 1)
Logical channel 7 = MPEG service 71 (LA7)
Logical channel 107 = MPEG service 79 (LA7 HD)
Logical channel 29 = MPEG service 73 (LA7d)
Logical channel 615 = MPEG service 105 (Radio 105)
Logical channel 616 = MPEG service 104 (VIRGIN RADIO)
Logical channel 617 = MPEG service 101 (R101)
Logical channel 618 = MPEG service 102 (Radio Monte Carlo)
Logical channel 619 = MPEG service 103 (Radio Monte Carlo 2)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
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00 4f fc 07 .O..

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 6700 (0x1a2c)
Original Network ID: 64511 (0xfbff) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 12.054 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 29900 MSps
FEC: 5/6
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 81 = MPEG service 7245 (CNBC HD)

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 6800 (0x1a90)
Original Network ID: 64511 (0xfbff) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 12.072 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 29900 MSps
FEC: 5/6
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 19 = MPEG service 4120 (Cielo HD)
Logical channel 8 = MPEG service 7260 (TV8 HD)

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 6900 (0x1af4)
Original Network ID: 64511 (0xfbff) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 12.092 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 29900 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 18 = MPEG service 11180 (TV2000 HD)
Logical channel 44 = MPEG service 11418 (frisbee)
Logical channel 46 = MPEG service 11466 (K2)
Logical channel 53 = MPEG service 11722 (Food Network HD)
Logical channel 28 = MPEG service 14253 (DMAX HD)
Logical channel 31 = MPEG service 11507 (Real Time HD)

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 7000 (0x1b58)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 12.111 GHz
Modulation: QPSK, DVB-S
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 32 = MPEG service 780 (QVC)
Logical channel 77 = MPEG service 708 (Al Jazeera)
Logical channel 608 = MPEG service 736 (RDS)
Logical channel 609 = MPEG service 737 (DimSuono Roma)
Logical channel 625 = MPEG service 768 (DISCORADIO)
Logical channel 627 = MPEG service 738 (ANNI 60)
Logical channel 633 = MPEG service 732 (Radio Maria)
Logical channel 643 = MPEG service 742 (Radio Kiss Kiss)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
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Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 7200 (0x1c20)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 12.149 GHz
Modulation: QPSK, DVB-S
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
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Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 92 = MPEG service 7224 (CCTV 4)
Logical channel 93 = MPEG service 7254 (SMTv San Marino HD)
Logical channel 610 = MPEG service 3642 (RTL 102.5)
Logical channel 611 = MPEG service 3643 (RADIO ZETA ITALIANA)
Logical channel 620 = MPEG service 3632 (RADIO ITALIA s.m.i.)
Logical channel 612 = MPEG service 3630 (Radio Freccia)
Logical channel 621 = MPEG service 3653 (M DUE O)
Logical channel 622 = MPEG service 3652 (CAPITAL)
Logical channel 623 = MPEG service 3651 (DEEJAY)
Logical channel 624 = MPEG service 3644 (Radio 24)
Logical channel 626 = MPEG service 3645 (R.ONDA D'URTO)
Logical channel 632 = MPEG service 3646 (Radio Radio)
Logical channel 634 = MPEG service 7280 (Radio Mater)
Logical channel 635 = MPEG service 3656 (popolare)
Logical channel 644 = MPEG service 3637 (Radio Sportiva)

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 8900 (0x22c4)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 12.476 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 29900 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 59 = MPEG service 2017 (Euronews Italian)
Logical channel 815 = MPEG service 2004 (Telepace)

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 9000 (0x2328)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 12.520 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 78 = MPEG service 9006 (Al Araby HD)

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 9100 (0x238c)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 12.539 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 30000 MSps
FEC: 5/6
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 222 = MPEG service 1104 (MyZenTV 4K)
Logical channel 289 = MPEG service 1102 (FTVUHD.COM)

Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 9300 (0x2454)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 12.577 GHz
Modulation: 8PSK (DVB-DSNG/Turbo/DVB-S2)
Polarity: Horizontal
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 177 = MPEG service 1601 (Al Jazeera HD)
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x88
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Network Name: Tivu
Network ID: 319 (0x013f)
Transport Stream ID: 9400 (0x24b8)
Original Network ID: 318 (0x013e) Version: 10
Descriptor: Network Name Descriptor
DVB-S Orbital Position: 13.0E
Frequency: 12.597 GHz
Modulation: QPSK, DVB-S
Polarity: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 27500 MSps
FEC: 3/4
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0x83
Logical channel 70 = MPEG service 8204 (BBC World News)
 
Salve ragazzi, volevo una info veloce: Rai HD, Mediaset HD, la7 e in generale gli altri canali HD di tivusat trasmettono ad un bitrate migliore rispetto agli equivalenti DTT?
 
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