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Ricezione Canali Russi 36 Est

deepbluesky ha scritto:
Oh I see. So the weak frequencies shown in your EBS Pro Scan are from 36C and the others from 36B and these rise when you focus the dish at 36C. That explains these very low SNR values. But are all <10dB from 36C and the rest from 36B ?
Looks like it's time to inform flysat/lyngsat so that these can update their lists. I could do it but it would not be fair regarding how many of you DXers all around Europe have contributed to solve this hard puzzle.

Stay in touch. Greetings from Stuttgart.
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I think in these days they are moving some TP from the 36B to 36C and adding new frequencies. I'm almost sure that all the TP <10dB in my report are from E36C. I'm asking anybody check about my low SNR Frequencies, any lock? What about the SNR?
Now I have some news about the Russian Beam from my location
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As you can see I have about 5,00dB SNR on 12418V (12418L) and the same on 12380V (12380L).
Unfortunately I have no lock so I cannot guarantee about the Russian Beam (they could be new frequencies on SS(A) E36C for example). About this I ask any piece of information
Regards
 
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You might be right that it's too soon for informing flysat/lyngsat. To find out if these low SNR frequencies of yours are from SS(A) Beams I would ask in this nigerian board here: http://www.nairaland.com/712408/free-air-satellite-tv-general/1180
They are well covered and many people should see if they can lock each frequency. If not then it must be from either 36B or 36C Russia Beam.
Just list up all the frequencies you want to have checked and I will ask there. Years ago I registered there because of some very nice out of footprint reports including 13E ;)

The most difficult part is to separate from which satellite 36B or 36C they are. Here we must concentrate on regions where a big difference between them (same beam) can be seen. For example the first reports look like 36C African Beam is easier in certain parts of Greece compared to 36B and 36C Russia Beam is worse in eastern parts of Germany in comparison to 36B.
 
deepbluesky ha scritto:
You might be right that it's too soon for informing flysat/lyngsat. To find out if these low SNR frequencies of yours are from SS(A) Beams I would ask in this nigerian board here: http://www.nairaland.com/712408/free-air-satellite-tv-general/1180
They are well covered and many people should see if they can lock each frequency. If not then it must be from either 36B or 36C Russia Beam.
Just list up all the frequencies you want to have checked and I will ask there. Years ago I registered there because of some very nice out of footprint reports including 13E ;)

The most difficult part is to separate from which satellite 36B or 36C they are. Here we must concentrate on regions where a big difference between them (same beam) can be seen. For example the first reports look like 36C African Beam is easier in certain parts of Greece compared to 36B and 36C Russia Beam is worse in eastern parts of Germany in comparison to 36B.
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Just now it's enough to know about those two frequencies 12418V and 12380V. If there will be no signal from Nigeria it will be sure they are from Russia Beam and I will understand that if I could use Circular LNB I will be able to receive Russia Beam on my 4.2Mt dish at my longitude and latitude. Thank you very much for your help.
Stay in touch
 
Ricezione 36E - Eutelsat 36B-36C
(aggiornato al 01-03-2016 h12:00 by bobbys)

superdish66 -> prov Asti -> 425 cm -> Eutelsat 36B Eurasian beam ok, Eutelsat 36B Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (11727V 10.9dB, 11747H 11.7dB, 11765V 11.6dB, 11785H 11.7dB, 11804V 11.3dB, 11823H 11.2dB, 11842V 11.1dB, 11862H 12.0dB, 11881V 8.5dB, 11900H 11.7dB, 11957V 7.1dB, 11977H 11.1dB, 11996V 7.7dB, 12015H 11.1dB, 12034V 6.9dB, 12053H 11.4dB, 12072V 7.6dB, 12245H 9.8dB), Eutelsat 36B Africa beam ok (11919V 11.2dB, 11938H 11.0dB), Eutelsat 36B Russian beam ko (12130H 6.4dB), Eutelsat 36C Russia beam ko (12207H 5.9dB, 12264V 6.6dB, 12360H 7.2dB, 12398H 7.0dB, 12437H 7.4dB, 12475H 7.9dB) (23-02-16)

antoniopev -> sud Lodi -> 150 cm -> Eutelsat 36B Eurasian beam ok (11004H 13.1dB, 11091V 14.1dB, 11106V 14.6dB, 11212H 12.7dB, 11371H 13.7dB, 11389H 15.1dB, 11422H 14.7dB, 11442H 17.7dB, 11475V 4.7dB, 11523V 11.1dB, 11556H 14.7dB, 11557V 10.7dB, 11594H 14.6dB, 11608H 13.5dB, 12515V 12.3dB, 12522H 13.6dB, 12543V 12.4dB, 12573V 12.5dB, 12593V 12dB, 12609V 10.0dB, 12699V 11.4dB), Eutelsat 36B Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (11728V 7.4dB, 11748H 7.2dB, 11767V 7.6dB, 11786H 6.8dB, 11805V 7.4dB, 11824H 6.7dB, 11844V 7.2dB, 11863H 7.0dB, 11900H 7.1dB, 11978H 6.7dB, 12016H 7.0dB, 12055H 7.1dB, 12246H 6.8dB), Eutelsat 36B Africa beam ok (11940H 6.8dB), Eutelsat 36C Russia beam ko (12208H 10.0dB, 12361H 3.5dB, 12400H 4.0dB, 12441H 4.8dB, 12477H 4.6dB) (13-02-16)

Digitalbi -> prov Verona -> 180 cm -> Eutelsat 36B Eurasian beam ok (12511H, 12520H, 12540V ok), Eutelsat 36B Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (11727V, 11747H, 11766V, 11785H, 11823H. 11843V, 11862H, 11977H, 12015H, 12054H, 12245H, 12440H, 12476H ok), Eutelsat 36B Africa beam ok (11940H ok), Eutelsat 36C Russia beam ko (13-02-16)

roberto02 -> centro Italia -> Gibertini 150 cm -> Eutelsat 36B Eurasian beam ok (11211H 17.2dB, 11441H 17.9dB, 11490V 15.3dB, 12512H 12.3dB, 12522H 12.3dB, 12542V 11.7dB, 12608V 10.9dB, 12689V 10.9dB, 12699V 12.1dB, 12705V 13.7dB, 12709V 11.5dB, 12722H 15.8dB), Eutelsat 36B Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (11727V 9.0dB, 11747H 8.4dB, 11766V 9.1dB, 11785H 8.4dB, 11804V 8.5dB, 11823H 8.4dB, 11842V 8.8dB, 11862H 8.7dB, 11881V 7.0dB, 11900H 8.8dB, 11957V 6.5dB, 11977H 8.3dB, 12015H 8.8dB, 12034V 5.9dB, 12054H 8.8dB, 12072V 6.1dB, 12245H 8.6dB), Africa beam ok (11919V 9.0dB, 11938H 8.5dB), Eutelsat 36B Russian beam ko (12130H 5.7dB), Eutelsat 36C Russia beam ko (12207H 5.2dB, 12360H 5.0dB) (20-02-16)

Capitan_Uncino -> prov Napoli -> 150 cm (lnb Inverto Black Ultra) -> Eutelsat 36B Eurasian beam ok, Eutelsat 36B Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (12073V 4.6dB, 12246H 5.0dB), Eutelsat 36C Russia beam ko (12208H 5.0dB, 12361H 5.5dB, 12399H 5.3dB, 12441H 5.8dB, 12476 5.7dB) (13-02-16)


36E - Eutelsat 36A-36B-36C map reception
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msi...ll=43.004647,9.360352&spn=17.601328,30.541992
 
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deepbluesky ha scritto:
Hello again,

We've got an answer from Africa: http://www.nairaland.com/712408/free-air-satellite-tv-general/1182#43287352
Here is my answer to that: http://www.nairaland.com/712408/free-air-satellite-tv-general/1183#43372991
So these two frequencies are for sure from 36B or 36C Russia Beam.
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Hello,
I saw those answers. Thank you very much for your help and stay in touch for any news.

Grazie a @bobbys per l'aggiornamento mappa.
Finalmente posso garantire che, con 5,00dB SNR su 12418V (12418L) e lo stesso 12380V (12380L) con LNB lineare, ma no lock, alla mia latitudine e longitudine con LNB circolare sulla 4,2MT posso agganciare il baem russo della posizione 36Est.

In primavera provero con un vetrino autocostruito da infilare nel Feed della ADL poi Vi ragguaglierò.
 
Scansione fatta stamattina con cielo sereno, sempre con il disco 150 e tbs6983...



PS: tutti i transponder provengono dal beam sub-sahara africa.. la mattina il segnale è migliore per poi diminuire verso sera...
 
Capitan_Uncino -> prov Napoli -> 150 cm (lnb Inverto Black Ultra) -> Eutelsat 36B Eurasian beam ok, Eutelsat 36B Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (11728V 4.7dB, 11747H 4.84dB, 11766V 5.1dB, 11785H 5.2dB, 11824H 5.5dB, 11843V 5.5dB, 11862H 5.8dB, 11881V 5.3dB, 11900H 6.3dB, 11958V 5.5dB, 11977H 6.1dB, 12015H 6.7dB, 12034V 5.8dB, 12054H 6.7dB, 12073V 6.6dB, 12245H 7.3dB), Eutelsat 36B Africa beam ok (11939H 6.0dB), Eutelsat 36B Russian beam ko (12130H 6.6dB), Eutelsat 36C Russia beam ko (12207H 6.9dB, 12265V 7.5dB, 12360H 7.2dB, 12399H 7.2dB, 12437H 7.1dB, 12476H 7.4dB) (02-03-16)

Capitan_Uncino ha scritto:
PS: tutti i transponder provengono dal beam sub-sahara africa..
Clicca per espandere...

Quindi 12130H, 12207H, 12265V, 12360H, 12399H, 12437H, 12476H non sono (L, R) sul Russia beam? :eusa_think:
 
Capitan_Uncino ha scritto:
Scansione fatta stamattina con cielo sereno, sempre con il disco 150 e tbs6983...



PS: tutti i transponder provengono dal beam sub-sahara africa.. la mattina il segnale è migliore per poi diminuire verso sera...
Clicca per espandere...
Questa è la mia, fatta stamattina con cielo sereno disco da 120 scheda TBS 5922 SE (USB)



@Capitan_Uncino:hai idea perché mi fa tutte quelle linee verticali in più ? :eusa_think: può essere LNB datato che fornisce un segnale "sporco" :eusa_think: di solito certi "misteri" cerco di risolverli da solo ma ultimamente faccio prima a chiedere

scansione da 11700 a 12500

visto che le frequenze si leggono poco a causa di tutte quelle linee allego la lista:

[SATTYPE]
1=0360
2=Eutelsat 36,B 36C
[DVB]
0=25
1=11727,V,27500,34,QPSK
2=11746,H,27500,34,QPSK
3=11765,V,27500,34,QPSK
4=11785,H,27500,34,QPSK
5=11804,V,27500,23,8PSK
6=11823,H,27500,34,QPSK
7=11842,V,27500,34,QPSK
8=11861,H,27500,34,QPSK
9=11880,V,27500,34,QPSK
10=11899,H,27500,34,QPSK
11=11919,V,27500,23,8PSK
12=11938,H,27500,34,QPSK
13=11957,V,27500,34,QPSK
14=11976,H,27500,34,QPSK
15=12014,H,27500,34,QPSK
16=12034,V,27500,34,QPSK
17=12052,H,27500,34,QPSK
18=12072,V,27500,34,QPSK
19=12129,H,27500,34,QPSK
20=12206,H,27500,34,QPSK
21=12244,H,27500,34,QPSK
22=12360,H,27500,34,QPSK
23=12437,H,27500,34,QPSK
24=12475,H,27500,34,QPSK
25=12512,H,4339,12,QPSK

nuova scansione

 
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Capitan_Uncino ha scritto:
Sono tutte sul beam sub-sahara, ecco cosa viene tramesso:
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Grazie, corretto....
;)

Ricezione 36E - Eutelsat 36B-36C
(aggiornato al 02-03-2016 h12:00 by bobbys)

superdish66 -> prov Asti -> 425 cm -> Eutelsat 36B Eurasian beam ok, Eutelsat 36B Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (11727V 10.9dB, 11747H 11.7dB, 11765V 11.6dB, 11785H 11.7dB, 11804V 11.3dB, 11823H 11.2dB, 11842V 11.1dB, 11862H 12.0dB, 11881V 8.5dB, 11900H 11.7dB, 11957V 7.1dB, 11977H 11.1dB, 11996V 7.7dB, 12015H 11.1dB, 12034V 6.9dB, 12053H 11.4dB, 12072V 7.6dB, 12245H 9.8dB), Eutelsat 36B Africa beam ok (11919V 11.2dB, 11938H 11.0dB), Eutelsat 36B Russian beam ko, Eutelsat 36C Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (12207H 5.9dB, 12130H 6.4dB, 12264V 6.6dB, 12360H 7.2dB, 12398H 7.0dB, 12437H 7.4dB, 12475H 7.9dB), Eutelsat 36C Russia beam ko (12380V 5.0dB, 12418V 5.0dB) (23-02-16)

antoniopev -> sud Lodi -> 150 cm -> Eutelsat 36B Eurasian beam ok (11004H 13.1dB, 11091V 14.1dB, 11106V 14.6dB, 11212H 12.7dB, 11371H 13.7dB, 11389H 15.1dB, 11422H 14.7dB, 11442H 17.7dB, 11475V 4.7dB, 11523V 11.1dB, 11556H 14.7dB, 11557V 10.7dB, 11594H 14.6dB, 11608H 13.5dB, 12515V 12.3dB, 12522H 13.6dB, 12543V 12.4dB, 12573V 12.5dB, 12593V 12dB, 12609V 10.0dB, 12699V 11.4dB), Eutelsat 36B Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (11728V 7.4dB, 11748H 7.2dB, 11767V 7.6dB, 11786H 6.8dB, 11805V 7.4dB, 11824H 6.7dB, 11844V 7.2dB, 11863H 7.0dB, 11900H 7.1dB, 11978H 6.7dB, 12016H 7.0dB, 12055H 7.1dB, 12246H 6.8dB), Eutelsat 36B Africa beam ok (11940H 6.8dB), Eutelsat 36B Russian beam ko, Eutelsat 36C Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (12208H 10.0dB, 12361H 3.5dB, 12400H 4.0dB, 12441H 4.8dB, 12477H 4.6dB), Eutelsat 36C Russia beam ko (13-02-16)

Digitalbi -> prov Verona -> 180 cm -> Eutelsat 36B Eurasian beam ok (12511H, 12520H, 12540V ok), Eutelsat 36B Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (11727V, 11747H, 11766V, 11785H, 11823H. 11843V, 11862H, 11977H, 12015H, 12054H, 12245H, 12440H, 12476H ok), Eutelsat 36B Africa beam ok (11940H ok), Eutelsat 36B Russian beam ko, Eutelsat 36C Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (12440H, 12476H), Eutelsat 36C Russia beam ko (13-02-16)

roberto02 -> centro Italia -> Gibertini 150 cm -> Eutelsat 36B Eurasian beam ok (11211H 17.2dB, 11441H 17.9dB, 11490V 15.3dB, 12512H 12.3dB, 12522H 12.3dB, 12542V 11.7dB, 12608V 10.9dB, 12689V 10.9dB, 12699V 12.1dB, 12705V 13.7dB, 12709V 11.5dB, 12722H 15.8dB), Eutelsat 36B Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (11727V 9.0dB, 11747H 8.4dB, 11766V 9.1dB, 11785H 8.4dB, 11804V 8.5dB, 11823H 8.4dB, 11842V 8.8dB, 11862H 8.7dB, 11881V 7.0dB, 11900H 8.8dB, 11957V 6.5dB, 11977H 8.3dB, 12015H 8.8dB, 12034V 5.9dB, 12054H 8.8dB, 12072V 6.1dB, 12245H 8.6dB), Eutelsat 36B Africa beam ok (11919V 9.0dB, 11938H 8.5dB), Eutelsat 36B Russian beam ko, Eutelsat 36C Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (12130H 5.7dB, 12207H 5.2dB, 12360H 5.0dB), Eutelsat 36C Russia beam ko (20-02-16)

Foxbat -> Roma -> 120 cm (lnb Mti) -> Eutelsat 36B Eurasian beam ok, Eutelsat 36B Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (11727V 6.0dB, 11746H 6.0dB, 11765V 6.0dB, 11785H 7.0dB, 11804V 7.0dB, 11823H 7.0dB, 11842V 6.0dB, 11861H 7.0dB, 11880V 6.0dB, 11899H 7.0dB, 11957V 6.0dB, 11976H 7.0dB, 12014H 7.0dB, 12034V 4.7dB, 12052H 7.0dB, 12072V 6.0dB, 12244H 7.0dB), Eutelsat 36B Africa beam ok (11919V 7.0dB, 11938H 7.0dB), Eutelsat 36B Russian beam ko, Eutelsat 36C Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (12129H 6.4dB, 12206H 6.0dB, 12360H 6.0dB, 12437H 4.7dB, 12475H 4.7dB), Eutelsat 36C Russia beam ko (02-03-16)

Capitan_Uncino -> prov Napoli -> 150 cm (lnb Inverto Black Ultra) -> Eutelsat 36B Eurasian beam ok, Eutelsat 36B Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (11728V 4.7dB, 11747H 4.84dB, 11766V 5.1dB, 11785H 5.2dB, 11824H 5.5dB, 11843V 5.5dB, 11862H 5.8dB, 11881V 5.3dB, 11900H 6.3dB, 11958V 5.5dB, 11977H 6.1dB, 12015H 6.7dB, 12034V 5.8dB, 12054H 6.7dB, 12073V 6.6dB, 12245H 7.3dB), Eutelsat 36B Africa beam ok (11939H 6.0dB), Eutelsat 36B Russian beam ko, Eutelsat 36C Sub-Sahara Africa beam ok (12130H 6.6dB, 12207H 6.9dB, 12265V 7.5dB, 12360H 7.2dB, 12399H 7.2dB, 12437H 7.1dB, 12476H 7.4dB), Eutelsat 36C Russia beam ko (02-03-16)

36E - Eutelsat 36A-36B-36C map reception
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msi...ll=43.004647,9.360352&spn=17.601328,30.541992
 
Foxbat ha scritto:
@Capitan_Uncino:hai idea perché mi fa tutte quelle linee verticali in più ? :eusa_think: può essere LNB datato che fornisce un segnale "sporco" :eusa_think: di solito certi "misteri" cerco di risolverli da solo ma ultimamente faccio prima a chiedere
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Vai nella finestra Style e togli la spunta da Mark width... quelle linee in più evidenziano la larghezza di banda occupata dal transponder..... ;)

 
Lo sapevo che ho fatto prima a chiedere, perfetto grazie ;)
 
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Proprio oggi ho cercato di beccare la frequenza 11387 H 28800 ed in particolare il canale Match! TV (ID: "KINOSOYuZ NTV-PLYuS") che da quel che ho letto in rete è FTA.
Sintonizzando tale frequenza, con il mio CT 5000 HD c+, mi da segnale pieno solo che poi quando vado a fare la scansione del transponder suddetto non mi aggancia nessun canale.
Non vorrei che tale transponder avesse qualche modulazione particolare. Voi riuscite a beccarlo?
Grazie.
 
Io con ct4100 lo ricevo...almeno fino a venerdì scorso...però ci mette un pò per "caricarlo"
Ora guardo

Allora andandoci direttamente da altro sat si vede subito ma immagini molto "strascicate" in caso di movimento a quadretti (tipo facce cubiste di Picasso)
La Russia k idem...poi tornando da questa a match un pò di tempo x caricare ma sempre immagini di quel tipo
 
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Per me nessun problema di aggancio, salvo la qualità del video che in alcuni casi sembra coperta, con Openbox X6 e C.tech 4100.Invece ho notato che con Amiko 8900, che ho preso recentemente, e che pure per il suo prezzo fornisce prestazioni eccellenti, non aggancia nulla sulla stessa frequenza.Quindi dipende proprio dal ricevitore e sarebbe interessante che qualcuno più esperto di questioni tecniche possa spiegare il perché.
 
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