Ricezione Canali Russi 36 Est

antoniopev ha scritto:


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Antonio many thanks.

Your bandscan perfectly shows all the carriers of DSTV Africa except those that are transmitted from South Africa Beam. This means that you can get 14 of 15 H and 4 of 10 V. Even more lyngsat and flysat should update their lists. Of course we don't know yet which carriers are active on South Africa Beam but these should anyway be out of reach for us in Europe.
 
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Digitalbi ha scritto:
______Verona Provincia, ricevo circa 203 canali da queste 17 frequenze :

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Thanks a lot Digitalbi.

I suppose this is your very interesting result by the way with 1.80m PFA. Far more than I would have expected so far in the Northeast of Italy. I would have thought that the Russians are almost on same level or even stronger that no DSTV frequency could be locked.
 
deepbluesky ha scritto:
This looks kind of strange compared to the results of Digitalbi and antoniopev. You don't have any locks below 12073V although the peaks look quite strong.
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and I digitalbi we are in the north while captain hook and southern Italy
This tp and the sub beam african sharian
why we did not nod to the block

google translator sorry
 
antoniopev ha scritto:
strano che essendo molto + a sud di noi non hai le stessa ricezione
oltretutto il beam e quello africano
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Quando si è fuori dell'area di servizio può succedere di tutto... comunque già sul E36A c'era un piccolo beam che irradiava sul marocco e sud spagna e adesso un beam simile è presente anche sul E36C (è ci dev'essere anche sul E36B, anche se non viene mostrato sui beam ufficiali) e questo favorisce più la parte ovest dell'italia (sardegna, sicilia, parte della toscana e lazio).

Senza escludere che ci sia un problema sul mio impianto, in questi giorni non ho potuto provare con la gibertini 125, perchè impegnata 24 ore su 24, a seguire i test dell'eutelsat 9B.
 
Ho fatto ora un blindscan sui 36°E con decoder e non con scheda sat, sono usciti 36 trasponder per un totale di 280 canali TV e 43 radio feed compresi, volendo posso anche documentare, non ho tempo ora di verificare quali siano quelli di facile ricezione e quelli "difficili", cioè a quali beam appartengono

@deepbluesky

location:Rome
 
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Foxbat ha scritto:
Ho fatto ora un blindscan sui 36°E con decoder e non con scheda sat, sono usciti 36 trasponder per un totale di 280 canali TV e 43 radio feed compresi, volendo posso anche documentare, non ho tempo ora di verificare quali siano quelli di facile ricezione e quelli "difficili", cioè a quali beam appartengono

@deepbluesky

location:Rome
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I understand Foxbat. Thanks anyway for your interest.
 
nome in uso ha scritto:
south sardinia
30 tp
243 tv
40 radio
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Thank you very much. I am interested which frequencies in particular you are receiving but since it is a lot of work writing them down I won't ask anybody to write them by hand. This is what I am doing now. There will be a list on the left side which frequencies are being used by Russian Beams and with which parameters and a list on the right showing the ones used on the (Subsahara) Africa Beams of 36B/C. It's a hassle because I have to search here and there and probably ask to find out the exact transmission parameters. So I will return when ready. This will be much easier then for everybody to check which ones are missing.
 
I have managed to build the following list of active frequencies based on reports of two reliable DXers from Romania and France where the opposite Beam does not disturb the reception. This way everybody can see which frequencies come from which Beam.
Since there might be changes in future I cannot guarantee that after some weeks or months everything will be correct. There might be frequencies missing/have added or transmission parameters might have changed.


Eutelsat 36B/C Russia Beam Eutelsat 36B/C Subsahara (Africa) Beam

11727L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11727V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11747R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11747H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11766L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11766V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11785R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4 11785H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11804L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11804V DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 2/3
11823R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11823H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11843L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11843V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11862R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11862H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11881L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4 11881V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11900R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4 11900H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11919L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11919V DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 2/3
11938R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11938H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11958L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11958V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11977R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11977H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11996L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11996V DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 2/3
12015R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12015H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12034L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12034V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12054R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12054H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12073L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12073V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12092R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12111L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4
12130R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4
12149L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4
12169R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4
12174L DVB-S/QPSK 4340 3/4
12190L DVB-S/QPSK 22500 3/4
12207R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12207H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 2/3
12226L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12245R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12246H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12265L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12284R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12303L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12322R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12341L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12360R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12360H DVB-S/QPSK 26480 2/3
12380L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12399R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4 12399H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12418L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4
12437R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12440H DVB-S/QPSK 23437 3/4
12456L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12476R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4 12476H DVB-S/QPSK 26040 2/3

Big thanks to
EXCALIBUR (40km NW of Bucarest 1.4m PFA) for Russia Beams (source http://www.rdi-board.com/threads/155486-ntv?p=1386225&viewfull=1#post1386225) 10.02.2016
Feedsat (Southern Central France 1.8m Offset) for Subsahara (Africa) Beam (source http://www.satellitescommunity.de/thread.php?threadid=23) 10/11.02.2016
 
Based on the latest reports from several DXers I have updated this list:

Eutelsat 36B/C Russia Beam Eutelsat 36B/C Subsahara (Africa) Beam

11727L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11727V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11747R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11747H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11766L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11766V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11785R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4 11785H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11804L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11804V DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 2/3
11823R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11823H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11843L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11843V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11862R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11862H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11881L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4 11881V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11900R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4 11900H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11919L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11919V DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 2/3
11938R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11938H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11958L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11958V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11977R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11977H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
11996L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 11996V DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 2/3
12015R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12015H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12034L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12034V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12054R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12054H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12073L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12073V DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12092R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12111L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4
12130R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12130H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12149L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4
12169R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4
12174L DVB-S/QPSK 4340 3/4
12190L DVB-S/QPSK 22500 3/4
12207R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12207H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12226L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12245R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12246H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12265L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4 12265V DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 2/3
12284R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12303L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12322R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12341L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12360R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12360H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12380L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12399R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4 12399H DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 2/3
12418L DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4
12437R DVB-S2/8PSK 27500 3/4 12437H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12456L DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4
12476R DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4 12476H DVB-S/QPSK 27500 3/4

Big thanks to
EXCALIBUR (40km NW of Bucarest 1.4m PFA) for Russia Beams (source http://www.rdi-board.com/threads/155486-ntv?p=1386225&viewfull=1#post1386225) 10.02.2016
xristoss1965 (Central Peloponnese Famaval 1.8m) for Subsahara (Africa) Beam (source: http://forum.satleo.gr/index.php/topic,10657) 19.02.2016
Feedsat (Southern Central France 1.8m Offset) for Subsahara (Africa) Beam (source http://www.satellitescommunity.de/thread.php?threadid=23) 20.02.2016
roberto02 (Florence 1.5m) for Subsahara (Africa) Beam (source: http://www.digital-forum.it/showthr...Russi-36-Est&p=4816669&viewfull=1#post4816669) 20.02.2016
 
This is my Report from ASTI North West Italy - 4.2Mt DH Dish
Your Range 11700 to 12500 (H/V)
Here is Horizontal:
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Here is Vertical:
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I think there are all Sub Sahara Africa TP. No chance for Russian Beam. Maybe with the circular POL LNB.

# of channels for the full band from 10900 to 12750 H/V is 363 including Data Channels

Regards
 
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Thank you very much superdish66.

Although I also believe that because of your location all the frequencies are from SS(A) Beams I checked each comparing with the table I have posted before so here are the ones that theoretically could also be from Russia Beams because of the same transmission parameters: 11785H, 11881V, 11900H
But I doubt that a lot as you say since you are not using a circular LNB if they were from Russian Beams they would be way too strong to have so high SNR with a linear LNB. But I am still surprised that some frequencies are much weaker than I would have expected in your location so far West and with that monster of dish as well.

Very interesting report indeed.
Ancora grazie mille.
 
deepbluesky ha scritto:
Thank you very much superdish66.

Although I also believe that because of your location all the frequencies are from SS(A) Beams I checked each comparing with the table I have posted before so here are the ones that theoretically could also be from Russia Beams because of the same transmission parameters: 11785H, 11881V, 11900H
But I doubt that a lot as you say since you are not using a circular LNB if they were from Russian Beams they would be way too strong to have so high SNR with a linear LNB. But I am still surprised that some frequencies are much weaker than I would have expected in your location so far West and with that monster of dish as well.

Very interesting report indeed.
Ancora grazie mille.
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Hi @Deepbluesky,
exacly my dish is so sensitive. From 36B to 36C I need to move 4 steps East. For example Tp 11727V is located on 36B and if I perfectly center the dish the SNR grows up to 12,1dB. Tp 12034V is located on 36C and if I move the dish to the East four steps and center it the SNR grows up to 7.3dB. In my report the dish was fixed between the two locations. Anyway I can confirm that 36C SS(A) Beam has weakest signal than the 36B. (all the reports are Late Evening time)

Let's be in contact. Regards

I've just checked and on Flysat list is written that 12034 is on E36B. I think it's wrong because I need to move four steps Est the antenna to have the best signal!!!
 
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Oh I see. So the weak frequencies shown in your EBS Pro Scan are from 36C and the others from 36B and these rise when you focus the dish at 36C. That explains these very low SNR values. But are all <10dB from 36C and the rest from 36B ?
Looks like it's time to inform flysat/lyngsat so that these can update their lists. I could do it but it would not be fair regarding how many of you DXers all around Europe have contributed to solve this hard puzzle.

Stay in touch. Greetings from Stuttgart.
 
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